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抽刀断水 02-10-2011 17:50

旅美北大女化学家涉嫌投铊毒杀清华老公

毒杀亲夫?李天乐不认罪
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涉用金属铊毒杀丈夫的李天乐9日在新州新布朗士维克的新州高等法院过堂,她对被控谋杀辩称无罪。(美联社)

被控毒杀丈夫的新泽西州华裔化学研究员李天乐(Tianle Li,以下均为音译),9日下午在法院过堂,由律师辩称无罪。比李天乐小一岁的丈夫王晓晔(Xiaoye Wang)上月底死亡,医院化验死因为金属铊(thallium)中毒。

在必治妥施贵宝制药公司工作十年的李天乐,有管道可从公司取得该放射性毒物;但其代表律师艾特曼(Steven Altman)9日表示,李天乐不曾自公司取得该毒物,也未谋害正协议离婚的丈夫。

40岁的李天乐,身着绿狱衣、戴金边眼镜,9日在新泽西州密德萨士郡高等法院,聆听法官托脱(Michael Toto)说明她的权利和法律程序。针对法庭裁定的450万元保释金,艾特曼向法官要求降低保释金额。艾特曼表示,刑事控罪的保释金通常在25万元至75万元间。

王晓晔是于上月14日因有「类似病毒感染」的症状就医,同月26日在普林斯顿大学医院死亡。密德萨士郡副助理检察官希维渠(Nicholas Sewitch)指出,王晓晔体内有致命剂量的金属铊,但他不愿说明,这种毒物是如何进入其体内。希维渠指出,是普林斯顿大学医院的一名护士联想起1990年代中国曾有铊中毒的案例,建议医师对病情一直未见起色的王晓晔做金属铊的化验。然而,在1月22、23日左右,王晓晔即已陷入昏迷。希维渠表示,李天乐可以从工作场所取得金属铊,但他不愿说明李天乐是否自服务的公司取得该毒物。他指出,这对协议离婚的夫妇,原定于1月14日签字离婚,正是王晓晔进医院的同一天。 

据报导,自2009年4月起,警方曾多次到这对夫妇位于新泽西州蒙若市(Monroe)的住宅,解决家庭纷争。但希维渠说,在这几次警方造访中,没有任何人受伤,也未对任何人下达禁制。

据律师艾特曼透露,王、李两人均来自中国,是在宾州大学读书时认识,于2000年结婚。两人有一名两岁的儿子,已交由寄养家庭照料。艾特曼并指出,目前正安排李天乐的母亲由北京来美。而服务施贵宝的华裔员工表示,「公司已下达禁密码。」


网友热议华裔女“铊杀”亲夫案:海不归悲剧

新泽西州华裔化学家李天乐(Tianle Li,音译)涉嫌以重金属物质铊杀害丈夫王晓晔(Xiaoye Wang,音译)案,9日在中文网上热议。有自称李天乐同事的网友说,李天乐平时做事就比较爱走极端,却绝难想到她会做出杀人的事。

李天乐的同事说,李天乐与王晓晔均来自中国大陆,李天乐毕业于北大,王则毕业于清华,两人都顶着「状元」的光环。李天乐来美留学就读长春藤名校,获硕士学位。夫妻两人在美国都有很稳定的工作,有一个约两岁的孩子,前两年刚买了房子。但夫妻关系一直不好,有时候会因为家庭暴力叫警察。

有网友引述李、王的邻居说,两人2008年搬入位于新泽西州门罗镇居住,次年婚姻便出现问题,正办理离婚手续。一位邻居表示,2010年每周警察都会接获报案到他们家中勘查一至两次;另一位住在对街的邻居则表示,经常听到争吵声,太太的声音比丈夫大,而且尖锐。附近邻居表示,很少与王李夫妇打交道,与他们不熟识,但都知道他们感情不好,时常吵架。

有人感慨,施毒需要精心策画,而且受害人从中毒到死亡还有几个星期的过程,实施这样的计画要有多么强烈的恨才能下得了手?这不比夫妻吵架,一时冲动,一刀捅死了对方,完了再后悔。

一位网友说,李、王家庭悲剧是「海不归的大悲剧」。这位网友,她身边的一位女友和男友同居多年,热恋期间两人共同买了房子,后来打打闹闹,纠缠多年,却因金融危机,若卖房子就大亏,被迫仍待在一起。





maggie 02-10-2011 18:23
怎么又是北大的投铊毒的,当年那个朱令令的事情,有20年了吗,到现在还没有搞清楚!

angela_whz 02-10-2011 18:53
看不下去。。。

清水 02-10-2011 20:26
可惜王晓晔一身的才华,就这么消失完结了。可悲呀!

性情茶包 02-10-2011 20:47
呼唤卡总给我们做深度报道

露佳 02-10-2011 20:50
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引用第1楼maggie于02-10-2011 18:23发表的  :
怎么又是北大的投铊毒的,当年那个朱令令的事情,有20年了吗,到现在还没有搞清楚!


朱令那个投毒案是清华的!

宝子妈 02-11-2011 02:17
何苦呐。

re小née 02-11-2011 15:16
"一位网友说,李、王家庭悲剧是「海不归的大悲剧」。这位网友,她身边的一位女友和男友同居多年,热恋期间两人共同买了房子,后来打打闹闹,纠缠多年,却因金融危机,若卖房子就大亏,被迫仍待在一起。"

奇怪了,这和海不海归有什么关系?

卡拉 02-11-2011 20:53
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引用第4楼性情茶包于02-10-2011 20:47发表的  :
呼唤卡总给我们做深度报道

我觉得我要是不回应,好像有点心不安。

卡拉 02-11-2011 21:03
来源: 文学城综合新闻

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<文学城综合新闻报导>被控在上个月以有毒重金属铊谋杀丈夫的嫌犯李天乐(专题)今日下午在新泽西密德塞斯郡法院首次出庭,40岁的嫌犯李天乐今天身穿绿色的囚服戴着金框眼镜在律师陪同下,表情看似镇静的在庭上聆听高等法院法官Michael Toto 向他解释她的权利以及法庭审理的程序。

  美国新泽西州40岁女华裔化学师李天乐(Tianle Li),被密德塞斯郡(Middlesex County)检察官办公室指控,以具有强烈毒性的放射物质铊(thallium)谋杀39岁丈夫王晓业(Xiaoye Wang,译音)。王晓业已于1月26日死亡,李天乐否认毒杀丈夫,并准以415万美金保释,案件于2月9日在新布朗士维克高等法院首次开庭。

  担任软件工程师的王晓业在1月14日因感冒症状前往普林斯顿大学医疗中心检查,经过两个星期的治疗,情况未好转并趋于严重,因而进行一连串的测试检验,25日检验报告证实王晓业铊中毒,院方立即举报,联邦调查局及有关当局便开始介入调查。26日王晓业被院方宣布不治身亡。两天后,其太太李天乐遭逮捕。

  根据郡检察官Nicholas Sewitch的说明指称,当死者王晓业在普林斯顿大学医疗中心检查和治疗的过程中怀疑可能是铊中毒的原因是由于当时在普林斯顿大学医疗中心就职的一名护士在这过程中提出了一个质疑,该名护士提到了她是因为想起了在90年代在中国发生一起铊中毒杀人事件才提醒医生检测王晓业体内的铊含量。

  在必治妥施贵宝制药公司(Bristol-Myers Squibb)担任化学师十年的李天乐,近月数次向公司申请取得铊,并在家中被搜出铊,因此被逮捕。经过侦讯,检方表示李天乐在2010年12月至 2011年1月之间,对她的丈夫王晓业使用了部分铊,至于如何使用,用量多少,检方以仍在侦查阶段不愿透露。

  李天乐坚持自己是无辜的,其辩护律师艾特曼说:“我的客户坚决否认涉入她丈夫的死亡,她没有原因或动机要他死”。他表示,李天乐与王晓业的离婚手续已经趋于完成阶段,且协议书中列明王晓业必须负担儿子的学费及抚养费,因此没有合理的杀人动机。艾特曼表示,李天乐在美国没有其它家人,被捕后,她的儿子即被当局带走,由新州青年与家庭服务处监护,并安置到寄养家庭,目前正等待她的家人从中国来美,帮助照顾这个孩子。

  李天乐和王晓业皆来自中国,据消息来源指出,李毕业于北京大学,王毕业于清华大学,两人育有一名两岁男童。2008年搬入位于新泽西州孟洛镇的史坦利街居处,次年婚姻开始出现问题,正在办理离婚手续。一位邻居表示,2010年每星期警察都会接获报案到他们家中勘查1至2次;另一位住在对街的邻居则表示,经常听到争吵声,且太太的声音比丈夫大又尖锐。附近邻居皆表示,很少与王李夫妇打交道,与他们不熟识,但都知道他们感情不好,时常吵架。

卡拉 02-11-2011 21:09
Published: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 7:15 AM    
Updated: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 8:40 AM

Star-Ledger Staff By Star-Ledger Staff

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Tianle "Heidi" Li of Monroe enters the courtroom in New Brunswick on Wednesday to be arraigned on murder charges. She is accused of murdering her estranged husband, Xiaoye Wang, by poisoning him with thallium.

MONROE — Dressed in green jail garb and with her hands cuffed in front of her, 40-year-old chemist Tianle Li stood before a judge in New Brunswick on Wednesday and listened with quiet composure as she was charged with murdering her husband by dosing him with a rare lethal drug.

Li’s lawyer, Steven Altman, entered a plea of not guilty, and a few minutes later, the hearing was over.

But while the legal part of this story was sorting itself out, startling details were emerging about a frantic, heroic attempt by doctors, scientists, and federal and state agencies to save the dying husband as he lay in a hospital, slipping away from thallium poisoning.

The scramble to save 39-year-old Xiaoye Wang began around 9 p.m. on Jan. 25, when Steven Marcus, the medical and executive director of New Jersey Poison Control, received a call from University Medical Center in Princeton. A doctor was on the other end of the line telling him about Wang and that thallium had been discovered in his system.

Marcus couldn’t believe what he was hearing. This was only the second time in his 43-year medical career that he’d come across a case of thallium poisoning. The physician at the Princeton hospital knew little about the deadly chemical and even less about how to treat it.

"It’s either attempted suicide," Marcus told the doctor, "or homicide."

There was silence on the other end of the phone, Marcus said.

Then he told the physician there was only one way to save Wang’s life — an antidote called Prussian Blue — and only one company in the United States manufactured it.

Thallium is tasteless and odorless and was used in rat poisoning and insecticides until it was banned in the United States in the 1980s because of its toxicity. It is still used in small doses in glass-making, mirror circuits and certain medical tests.

Marcus, who says his nickname is "House," a reference to the television character because he’s often called about perplexing medical cases, said his first thought was to contact everyone he could think of who might be able to help.

One of the first he reached out to was a former colleague at the U.S. Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee. Marcus had taken a course there 10 or 15 years earlier and remembered asking at the time if the lab kept antidotes on hand for thallium.

A year or so prior to that he had been contacted by doctors treating a New Jersey schoolteacher for thallium poisoning. The woman eventually recovered and no one was ever arrested, but the unusual case had stayed with him.

At 5 a.m. on Jan. 26, as scientists at Oak Ridge tried to figure out how to get Prussian Blue to New Jersey in the middle of a snowstorm, Marcus shoveled his driveway in North Jersey, then headed to Princeton, continuing to make calls the entire way — to the state Health Department, to New York City poison control, to anyone who might have Prussian Blue in stock and was closer than Tennessee.

No one did, but Christopher Rinn, the assistant commissioner of New Jersey’s Department of Health and Senior Services, told Marcus the agency was at his disposal.

"He said, ‘Whatever you need. Let’s cut through this bureaucracy,’" Marcus recalled.

By this time, however, Wang was unconscious. He had come to the hospital in Princeton on his own on Jan. 14, the same day he and Li were due in court to finalize their divorce, said Middlesex County Assistant Prosecutor Nicholas Sewitch, who confirmed after Li’s arraignment Wednesday that Wang was administered a "lethal, massive" dose of thallium.

A neighbor living near the couple’s home in Monroe Township, who identified herself only by her last name, Patel, said the two were "not friendly. We didn’t talk ... We knew they were having problems. We saw the cops there all the time."

Sewitch was unable to say how the thallium was administered or whether it was given in several small doses over time, or in one dose. All he would confirm is that the drug was ingested in December or January. He also would not comment on where Li allegedly obtained the thallium, but did say it would have been available to her at Bristol-Myers Squibb in Lawrenceville, where she’s worked since 2001 as a research chemist.

When Wang first arrived at the hospital on Jan. 14, Wang was experiencing "flu-like" symptoms, Sewitch said.

Thallium poisoning typically includes loss of hair, thickened skin, severe gastrointestinal pain and loss of feeling in the extremities. Wang didn’t present many of those symptoms until a few days after his arrival, Marcus said.

At that point a nurse recalled cases of thallium poisoning in China in the 1990s and suggested Wang’s urine be tested, Sewitch said. No lab in New Jersey was capable of performing the test, so Wang’s urine sample was sent out of state.

Twenty-four hours later, the diagnosis of thallium poisoning was confirmed and Marcus was notified.

"If someone at the hospital had not guessed it might be thallium and tested for it, it might have gone undetected," Marcus said.

With time running out, Marcus suggested to a pharmacist at the Princeton hospital that she contact chemical supply companies in the area to try and obtain a less pure dose of Prussian Blue, which is also used to dye clothes as well as microscopic specimens in biological research.

A dose of the non-medical grade was found in a matter of hours and rushed to Princeton the medical center, but Marcus and the other doctors realized they had no idea how much of it to administer.

Still traveling through snow and ice, Marcus suggested diluting the bright blue powder in water and simply doubling the recommended dose.

Nearly two hours after leaving his home, Marcus arrived in Princeton. The non-medical grade Prussian Blue had been administered through a gastric tube, but Wang had showed no response.

In the meantime, Marcus had contacted a federal facility near Albany, N.Y., that had the purer form of the antidote, and an SUV was dispatched to Princeton. When it finally arrived five hours later, Wang was near death.

The antidote would be useless. Marcus, along with a number of doctors and nurses, stood beside Wang’s bed, unable to do anything more.

Sometime around 3 p.m. on Jan. 26, as several detectives stood nearby, Wang’s heart monitor flatlined.

"There was remarkable cooperation between the hospital, poison control, the police, the state health department, the Centers for Disease Control and the nuclear energy department in Tennessee — all to get this antidote to the hospital in snow in a matter of a few hours," Marcus said. "Unfortunately it was too late."

By Amy Ellis Nutt and Sue Epstein/The Star-Ledger

Staff writer Amy Brittain contributed to this report.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/doctors_scientists_led_heroic.html

李天乐涉嫌“铊杀”案华裔护士成关键证人 解药晚到了一步

  据世界日报消息,在新泽西州的华裔妻子涉嫌毒杀丈夫案中,与华裔化学研究员李天乐(专题)正办离婚的王晓晔就医治疗无效后,是一名华裔护士提醒医师,王晓晔可能是铊中毒。一群医师,科学家,联邦政府及州府的调查人员,随即四处奔忙以拯救生命垂危的王晓晔,可惜取得解药时,为时已晚。这名华裔护士目前已被检方列为关键证人。

  新泽西密德萨士郡检察官办公室发言人欧内尔(詹姆斯奥尼尔)表示,这名护士曾在中国参与治疗铊中毒的病例,察觉与王晓晔的症状有相似之处,因而提醒王晓晔就医的普林斯顿大学医院,应做此罕见毒物的化验。

  据新泽西州明星纪事报报导,1月25日晚上9时,新州毒物控制处处长马可斯,接获普林斯顿大学医院打来的电话,该医院医生告诉他,调查人员在王晓晔体内发现金属铊。

  马可斯无法相信他听到的讯息,因为在他43年职业生涯中,这只是他第二次碰到金属铊中毒案例。

  这位普大医院医师对这种化学药物所知十分有限,更不知道应如何治疗马可斯告诉该名医生:。“这若非自杀案件,就是谋杀案件。”

  之后,他告诉该名医生,治疗王晓晔的唯一方法,是使用普鲁士蓝(普鲁士蓝)这种解药。而目前全美只有一家公司制造普鲁士蓝。

  金属铊是一种无味,无嗅的药物,它被用来制造杀老鼠的毒药及杀虫剂。由于它具有毒性,美国从1980年年代开始禁止使用。然而,迄今仍然有人使用少量的金属铊来制造玻璃,并用作某些医疗检测。

  1月26日清晨5时,田纳西州橡树脊市的科学家,试图在暴风雪肆虐之际取得普鲁士蓝,以紧急送到新泽西州。马可斯勉力铲除了住家车道积雪,驾车前往普林斯顿市。一路上,他不断打电话给新州卫生厅,纽约市毒物控制处及可能持有普鲁士蓝的任何人。

  当时,王晓晔已经昏迷。马可斯建议普林斯顿大学医院的一名药剂师,与附近地区的化学药物供应公司取得联系,以取得纯度较低的普鲁士蓝。结果虽然取得非医疗用的普鲁士蓝,但是马可斯及其他医师却都不知道应该使用多少剂量。

  马可斯建议透过一根胃管,输入王晓晔体内双倍剂量的非医疗用普鲁士蓝,但是,王晓晔却没有任何反应。

  在此同时,马可斯与纽约州奥本尼市一个联邦政府机构取得联系。该机构存有纯粹的普鲁土蓝解药。但是,当一辆多功能车奔驰五个小时,将解药送抵普林斯顿市时,王晓晔已经濒临死亡。1月26日下午3时左右,王晓晔停止心跳。解药送抵已迟,来不及救他一命。

性情茶包 02-11-2011 21:32
谢谢卡总~muas~

关于埃及的热点也报道下,怎样?

卡拉 02-11-2011 21:51
来源:网络

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Wang and Li in 2002 at University of Pennsylvania
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With wife in front of City Hall of Philadelphia after wedding
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Graduation in Tsinghua University
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Riding a horse at Song Hill in Beijing
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On campus of University of Pennsylvania
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On Times Square in NewYork
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With a friend in front of the museum at University of Pennsylvania
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At the top of Empire Tower in NewYork

卡拉 02-11-2011 22:04
系统不让上传代码,你们只有点击链接看了

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/video-on-demand-news/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=5551536&flvUri=&partnerclipid=

卡拉 02-11-2011 22:14
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王和李于2008年在新泽西购买的价值63万的豪宅

http://www.freenjsearch.com/nj/1705556-WANG,-XIAOYE-&-LI,-TIANLE/

卡拉 02-11-2011 22:20
来源:海外论坛


 真的是他(想起这样的事会发生在自己身边禁不住浑身发抖):

  被杀的王晓晔是清华精仪系的硕士生,本科南京大学的,硕士毕业就出国的,当时听他说读的是微机械,还说拿了全奖,现在才知道去的是u penn,他跟校方说自己没有钱买机票,问能不能预支奖学金,校方还真的就给他寄了支票(好像是2000美元的支票,我当时才知道原来还能这样做)。当时他是研究生,对本科生们并不友好,记得实验室新买的计算机,大家都在用,但是本科生们并没有妨碍他,但是有一天开始,他故意给实验室的计算机上了密码,只告诉另一个女研究生知道,不让我们用。感觉也是个心计重的人。当时并不知道他现在这个wife 的情况,当时有没有我们也不知道。也许两个心计重的人遇到了一起。

  看了照片感觉很眼熟(比以前胖了),没想到真的是,居然他也来到这里工作,还出了事。一时间直觉得世事难料。很多人把这事归到清华北大的头上,我不觉得干清华北大什么事,死者也并非正宗清华人。其实也不干化学的事吧,不用毒用刀也可以女杀男。我只觉得中国教育普遍没有教给学生们一个正确的心理素质,而倒是人与人斗的故事居多,当我把国内买的故事给小孩子听的时候,lg不喜欢,跟我说,怎么都是人跟人斗的,斗赢了就觉得自己很聪明似的。反倒是thomas的故事我们更喜欢,讲的是友情和合作的故事,我们更喜欢给小孩子看。到了国外,朋友少,压力大,性格孤僻的遇到问题无法开解,心理素质不健全的问题就凸现出来。2个人过不下去可以离婚,考虑到彼此的往日恩情和孩子,也可以彼此让一让,退一步,何至于要斗到你死我活。把兔子逼急了兔子也会咬人,当然也许有的兔子更爱咬人一些。

                                                                                            -------------会游泳的毛毛虫

  李天乐(专题)可能不是真正的杀人犯,她老公是有名的花花公子,在外面肯定有小三,本来说好了,离婚就和小三结婚。小三看到离婚协议,大部分钱给了李天乐(专题),小三气急败坏,对那个男人下了毒,想嫁祸给李。

                                                                                            -------------springhand

  小王的家人告李化学的单位管理药品制度不严格,索个亿元什么的,说不定能成

  小王死得冤哪,孩子也可怜,他的家人deserve这个钱

                                                                                            --------------michaelg

  有同事(很好的朋友,老公是那种直肠子挺老实的人)说她老公居然是那女的中学同学,还挺熟悉的,是这样说的:

  她做这种事,我一点也不奇怪。  还说曾经因为另外一女生比她考试高了一分,对人不理不采的。

  还有一相交多年的朋友,老公是同一公司的,说是曾经这女的跟人吵架,结果在停车场里碰到,开着车就撞,人家逃,她在后面追,从此以后没人敢跟她争。

                                                                                             --------------jojo1971

  有时候当正义不能得到伸张,就只好采取极端措施同归于尽。

  比方说夫妻有一方出轨有外遇,甚至出轨的一方堂而皇之的以“感情不合,性格不合”

  要求离婚,法律不能保护被伤害的配偶,这时候大多数人采取的是忍忍忍。但也有个别

  性格刚烈不愿被白白凌辱的配偶采取极端措施两人同归于尽。

  所以说到底,还是法律不能保护被伤害一方才导致类似事件发生。

  古往今来多少人为情所困、为情所害。sigh

                                                                                                                                                                      ------------ jjjddd


  我嘴欠,老婆刚刚打电话来从此不做饭了

  我是清华的,老婆是北大的。我昨天上吐下泄,没有回家。今早告之她有关下毒的事, 她早上没说什么。刚刚打电话来说从今后只负责买采,不再做饭了。如果我再不放心,菜也由我来买。
                                                                                              -------------雄

  英国有一位移民官,跟老婆的日子过烦了。结果在老婆离家去巴基斯坦旅游的时候,他偷偷把老婆放在了恐怖分子名单上,老婆整整三年回不了家。

  他最近被提拔。官方在对他进行背景调查的时候发现他老婆是恐怖分子。于是东窗事发.

                                                                                                                                                                   --------------maxil2004

  我老人家是很牛的,牛到居然有两个硕士文凭。其中有一个是北大滴。

  每次和国内的人聊天儿,问道你国内哪个学校毕业的,我总是说本科的学校。但聊天聊多了,自然会东拉西扯,有的时候就把北大的东东拉扯出来了。人家就会问我,这是那个学校的事儿啊?我赶紧说,北大的北大的,但我是硕士才上的北大,不算正宗北大人滴。

  你们别怪我啰嗦啊,每次谈到自己的北大经历时我都是这么三句一起上,否则怕别人心里觉得我攀龙附凤毁了他们本科母校的名气。

  你们也别怪我多心哈。今天有人问了一下“凭啥本科不在清华上的就不算“正宗”清华人?唯出身论啊。怪不得老美不认俺这个改编公民”。

                                                                                              -------------马甲无聊中

  我咋觉得自己跟李天乐(专题)这么像呢?

  看了李天乐在法庭上的照片,我赶紧照镜子,镜子里映出了一张何其相似的脸:相同的发型,面色蜡黄,瘦得只能看见颧骨,只能从眼神里看出曾经拥有的智慧。看她10年前的照片,对不挑剔的人来说她的确算是美女,而看我即使是20时年前的照片,不挑剔的人只能说这人不算太丑。所以我认为美女和恐龙的归宿都是黄老婆。

  实话,我知道杀人不对(假设是她杀的,希望不是),但我对她却恨不起来,很同情她,有点同病相怜的感觉。

  我老公本科毕业于清华,我的学习成绩和高考分数也足以上北大,而且保送了复旦没去,考到了父母任教的那所工科大学。我所就读的专业在全国排名第一,比清华靠前,老公考研到我们学校,硕士与我同班,现在想起来他吸引我的应该是清华的光环吧,我也许潜意识里后悔没去清华北大。我们硕士没毕业就结婚了,两年后生了儿子。大家别想歪了,我老公健在,我们目前婚姻完整。

  其实和许多第一代移民一样,出国后求学,找工作,买房子,生孩子。很辛苦,压力很大。我家的压力在两年前生女儿之前,全在我一人身上,老公当甩手掌柜,幸好他还能帮忙做家务,照顾儿子。人在有压力时往往很沮丧,在加上老公犯错,我那时很恨老公。但当然一次也没想过要老公如何,就想如何自杀,但又放不下年迈的父母和年幼的儿子。每次坐飞机时就盼着飞机掉下来,这样既解决问题又不是我的责任,现在留下后遗症,每次坐飞机都盼望发生点儿以外。想起一个笑话,说一个背叛老婆的人被老婆诅咒会遭报应,一次他坐飞机发生故障,他就祷告上帝说没必要连累飞机上无辜的人,只听上帝说:这么多年来我把这么多该死的人凑到一架飞机上,我容易吗?

  其实我没和李天乐一样走上绝路,主要有两个原因,一是我不那么执著,二是老公没那么坏。我很理解李天乐的处境,工作也许处于瓶颈,刚买了房,房价也许在跌,照顾两岁的孩子很辛苦,加上老公花心,遭遇离婚,老公也许很小人。。。人处在漩涡中很容易走极端,如果她能暂时度过难关,雨过天晴之后,她也许会微笑的回忆当时的痛苦和挣扎,把它当作不断成长的过程。人很容易健忘,尤其喜欢忘记痛苦。可惜她没能捱过去,能再坚持几个月,也许就能坦然面对当时的不幸了。

                                                                                             ------------三姐姐

  在写作《罂粟》期间又发生北大女妻子涉嫌投毒杀死清华男丈夫的事件,不知道是不是冥冥之中的天意。

  前清华毕业生,生前是华尔街 IT 人士的王小晔因为身体不适独自开车到医院就诊,被医生以流感医治一直没有好转。一个医院工作的护士认为他的症状跟多年前中国女孩朱令的铊中毒相似,随进行化验证明王小晔确实属于铊中毒。王小晔不治身亡。

  经过新泽西州警方和美国联邦调查局人员深入调查后,于 9日正式起诉王的妻子李天乐(译音)。警方透露,李天乐在新泽西进行化学研究工作,并在近两个月数次向单位申请获取放射性金属铊。当局并没有公布她到底从单位获取多少这种有毒金属。

  消息一传开,华人网站一时间热闹非凡,都在八卦这件事。据报纸报道,该夫妇之前已经在办离婚手续,手续就在王小晔死的那天生效。双方 2008 年在新泽西买房,生有一子,据说夫妻关系不好,曾因家暴数次招警,争吵之声连街对面的邻居都能听到。

  这样的事发生,又令我唏嘘不已——这又是一例典型的夫妻不和不能好和好散死磕以致磕死的极端事例。令我不明白的事,这两口子都有稳定的工作,王男还在华尔街工作,应该收入高于女方,为什么两个人都办离婚了还非要住在一起吃在一起?

  一般来说,西方法律对离婚是有分居要求的。西方人也都自觉遵守这条法律,不像中国人那样灵活变通——国人很多协议离婚,协议有成的时候可以对法庭说是同屋分居以求速速离婚。其实能这样也不错,至少双方都有尽快了断的意愿,一般来说,能这么尽快达成协议的,都是一方在财产上作出大幅度的让步以求换取对方尽快签字。

  到目前为止,据我所知的,所作让步的都是女方。前几天刚听朋友说了个特例,是男方作出让步——国内财产归女方,国外的房子卖掉净值平分,男方付女方 5 年赡养费(婚龄 10 年),女方放弃孩子的监护权,也不付孩子的抚养费。

  该例子是女方搬出去分居的,因为她不想要孩子,自己搬出去清静。

  但是我知道的大部分的中国人离婚家庭,男人即使不要孩子,或者孩子根本不可能归他们的情况下也拒绝搬出去分居,要么指望女人搬出去,要么死守房子到最后一刻的 SETTLE ,总之多一分的钱也不肯花。

  为了钱死磕!为了所谓的“公平”与“情理”而死磕!

  要知道西方的惯例和共识,要离婚要搬出去是男人搬,不可能让女人带着孩子到处奔波的,直到最后的 SETTLE ,该卖房卖房,该分钱分钱。让女人搬的,都是极品中的极品了。

  一个女友的老外女同事就嫁了个极品,但是她一分钟都不愿意跟这个极品待在一起了,所以自己搬了出来找律师离婚,直到最后卖了房子一人一半地 SETTLE 。

  她是没孩子,有孩子应该是另外一种做法了。

  如果王小晔从开始“闹”离婚的时候就搬出去分居,还会发生这样的悲剧吗?

  我们再从另外一个角度说说“死磕”。

  我写《我曾经是你的女人》的时候,写了作为大奶苏雪凝的种种不理智的行为(这里不谈小三百合的行为是否符合道德或者规范,只谈大奶),有读者说作为婚姻中受伤害的大奶,苏怎么做都不过分。现在网上有流言说王小晔是个花心大罗卜,有小三才要离婚的,我们假设这个流言是真的,也假设奶李天乐投毒成立,你能说她做的事不过分吗?法律会因此而免她的罪而不让她坐牢吗?

  在网络上,曾经有几例大奶小三网上较量的事轰动一时,当然是激愤之下的大奶作出来的非理智事件,透露小三的私人信息,甚至把人家孩子的照片贴上网等等,当时为大奶喝彩的掌声如潮,大奶帮们纷纷连呼解气,我说大奶做事欠考虑不理智有失尊严,结果喝彩者纷纷表示,受伤害的大奶做什么都不过分,甚至于说蜜瓜同学是小三出身,所以才如此为小三说话。

  今天发生这样的事,当年喝彩的人都到哪里去了?有没有人出头帮这位“做什么都不过分”的大奶凑凑天价的保释金(只要嫌犯不逃跑,保释金最后还会归还)?有没有人出面代表大奶团的大奶们去监狱探探监,帮她抚养两岁的幼儿?

  恰好同一天,有个网友上来说,因为她来美后一直不肯改专业,坚持自己的专业,积极在一个公司做不拿薪水的义工和实习生,被老公辱骂成废物,永远不可能找到工作,并且跟她分居要求离婚,并控制她的金钱。她不得不跟国内的哥哥要了 1 万美金度过难关。她的努力终于有了结果,找到了专业工作,她老公又要求她看在孩子的面上复合。

  就这样的婚姻,居然还有人说,你老公也没啥大毛病,就是贪财,要这位网友为了孩子忍,凑合。

  她们真不怕下一次这位网友失业了再遭遇相同的待遇,忍出人命来?

  这样的婚姻何必死磕?

  离婚确实是一件很有压力的事。但是人生一世,所遭遇的失败和负面的事情很多,我们不仅仅要接受自己的成功,更要学会接受自己的失败。一个人不会永远成功,也不会永远失败,关键是要学会把失败的负面能量转换为正面能量,让自己的人生迅速地从负面能量里解脱出来,这才是积极的人生态度。

  在一段垂死的婚姻里死磕,不肯承认或者接受自己的失败,也许你的人生就此沉迷,永远不能解脱。

  最后的结果就是磕死,物理的或者精神的。

                                                                                              -------------汉代蜜瓜

卡拉 02-11-2011 22:36
一个是北大才女 一个是清华才子 夫妻俩都移民美国

来源:郑州晚报
作者:朗天

美国新泽西州日前惊曝离奇家庭惨剧:现年40岁的华裔女化学家李天乐涉嫌利用放射性金属铊,毒死正办理离婚手续、担任电脑工程师的丈夫王晓业。王晓业1月26日因病去世,尸检报告显示死于铊中毒。警方调查发现,李天乐案发前曾多次向公司申领过不同剂量的剧毒金属铊。

两人名校毕业,婚后感情不和

现年40岁的李天乐目前供职于美国施贵宝制药公司,担任化学研究员已有10年。39岁的丈夫王晓业是一名电脑工程师,两人均为中国移民,分别毕业于北大和清华。据知情人曝料称,李天乐当年在北大曾有一位男友,后来王晓业“横刀夺爱”,随后两人双双赴美留学。

两人在美国结婚后育有一个两岁的男孩。然而婚后一年便多次发生家庭纠纷。据邻居反映,经常听到他们吵架的声音,妻子的声音比丈夫大,警察几乎每周都要上门介入勘查。案发时这对来自中国大陆的夫妇正在办理离婚手续。

丈夫铊中毒不治身亡

1月14日,王晓业因疑似流感症状自行前往普林斯顿大学医疗中心就诊,经过两个星期的治疗,情况未见好转并趋于严重。就在1月25日,医院检验报告证实王晓业铊中毒,联邦调查局及警方接到院方举报后,随即介入调查。1月26日,王晓业被院方宣布不治身亡。尸体检验报告显示,王晓业死于金属铊中毒。

经过新泽西州警方和美国联邦调查局人员深入调查后,于9日正式起诉王的妻子李天乐。在2010年12月至2011年1月期间,身为施贵宝制药公司研究员的李天乐先后数次向公司申请领取铊,且剂量一次比一次大。至于这些放射性重金属的用途及具体剂量为多少,检方以目前案情仍在侦查阶段为由不愿透露。

律师坚称她“没杀人动机”

李天乐目前已经被收押在米德尔塞克斯县监狱,原本设定为15万美元的保释金因为涉嫌谋杀罪,已经上调至415万美元。2月9日,新泽西州新布朗士维克高等法院开庭审理此案。李天乐的代理律师斯蒂文·阿尔特曼坚称,李天乐没有任何犯罪动机,因为夫妇两人已就离婚后房产分割达成协议,而男方承诺将为两岁的儿子提供抚养费,因此李天乐没有理由要害死丈夫。

据了解,李天乐在美国没有其他家人,被捕后,2岁的儿子即被当局带走,由新泽西州青年与家庭服务处监护,并安置到寄养家庭。目前李天乐正等待家人从中国来美,帮助照顾孩子。

野蛮妻子怒杀“花心丈夫”?

据知情者透露,李天乐聪明能干,可是性格强势,特爱较真,属于得理不饶人的那种。婚后,当年霸道可爱的“野蛮女友”不知不觉蜕变成不可理喻的蛮妇。

有网友发帖曝料称,李天乐因涉嫌杀夫被捕前曾经做过很多出格的事。比如,骚扰昔日男友的老婆,工作上的矛盾不闹到公司领导那里不甘心,生活中的琐事不闹到法院和警察局不罢休。而她一直认为自己是受害者,觉得世道对她不公。

死者王晓业则善于为人处世,人缘不错,深得大家信赖。他认识的女性很多,对其都礼貌、热情。王爱玩爱热闹,周末有时候大家组织活动没带他去,他都要嘱咐好几次,千万别忘了他的存在。从1998年起,王晓业曾不断传出绯闻,但是朋友们大都认为他性格活泼、酷爱交际,并没人当作稀奇。

链接:铊金属

铊(thallium, Tl)是一种剧毒的放射性金属,一般呈粉末状或结晶状,一克即足以致命。铊会阻断人体对钾的吸收,影响细胞生存,还会攻击神经系统、胃与肾脏。其毒性不会立即显现,中毒者通常要几个星期后才会出现呕吐、腹泻、头发脱落、四肢末端有灼热感等症状。据悉,人体铊中毒后毒性会慢慢侵蚀肠胃和肾脏,一般会经过数周才会进入严重状态。

伊拉克已故独裁者萨达姆据传曾以铊毒害政敌,美国中央情报局也曾考虑用铊暗杀古巴领导人卡斯特罗。铊被应用于某些临床药品中,但在上世纪70年代的美国也被广泛用来制作鼠药。

http://zzwb.zynews.com/html/2011-02/11/content_253792.htm

卡拉 02-11-2011 22:43
发信人: taitu (为情所困), 信区: Military
标  题: 被杀的王晓晔是清华精仪系的硕士生,本科南京大学的,硕士毕业就出国的zt
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 11 04:51:02 2011, 美东)



被杀的王晓晔是清华精仪系的硕士生,本科南京大学的,硕士毕业就出国的,当时听他
说读的是微机械,还说拿了全奖,现在才知道去的是u penn,他跟校方说自己没有钱买
机票,问能不能预支奖学金,校方还真的就给他寄了支票(好像是2000美元的支票,我
当时才知道原来还能这样做)。当时他是研究生,对本科生们并不友好,记得实验室新
买的计算机,大家都在用,但是本科生们并没有妨碍他,但是有一天开始,他故意给实
验室的计算机上了密码,只告诉另一个女研究生知道,不让我们用。感觉也是个心计重
的人。当时并不知道他现在这个wife 的情况,当时有没有我们也不知道。也许两个心
计重的人遇到了一起。

看了照片感觉很眼熟(比以前胖了),没想到真的是,居然他也来到这里工作,还出了事
。一时间直觉得世事难料。很多人把这事归到清华北大的头上,我不觉得干清华北大什
么事,死者也并非正宗清华人。其实也不干化学的事吧,不用毒用刀也可以女杀男。我
只觉得中国教育普遍没有教给学生们一个正确的心理素质,而倒是人与人斗的故事居多
,当我把国内买的故事给小孩子听的时候,lg不喜欢,跟我说,怎么都是人跟人斗的,
斗赢了就觉得自己很聪明似的。反倒是 thomas的故事我们更喜欢,讲的是友情和合作
的故事,我们更喜欢给小孩子看。到了国外,朋友少,压力大,性格孤僻的遇到问题无
法开解,心理素质不健全的问题就凸现出来。2个人过不下去可以离婚,考虑到彼
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昨天老公回家来,脸色苍白,问我:“你看了新闻没有?”

我说:“有啊。这两天那件铊中毒的事情闹得挺热闹。”

老公说:“李天乐是我的大学同学。”

我吃惊得说不出话来。

老公说:“李天乐大一在南开上生物系,和我同班。她大一后就转到北大去了,怎么转的化学,我不知
道。那都是二十年前,我们大一时系里出钱搞出游活动。那时的李天乐很内向,非常安静,身体也不
是很好,还吃着中药。辅导员想带自己的女朋友去,占她的名额,就说她身体不好,不用去了。李天
乐说,自己身体挺好,什么事也没有,可以去。辅导员说,那在外面出了事怎么办,谁负责?我正好
是班长,看不惯辅导员的小算盘,也是年轻气盛,就站出来说,我负责。后来李天乐就和同学一起出
去活动了。为了这个,她转学前还跑来谢了我一次。要不是因为这个,这么多年过去了,我可能都记
不起来还有这么个短暂同过班的女同学。这两天看新闻,我开始都没有留意这条,直到看到她的名
字。”

我问:“是不是同名?”

老公摇摇头:“我看了照片,是她。”

我说;“大人倒也算了,可怜了那个孩子。”

老公叹了口气。

我又问老公:“那你说这事是不是她干的?”

老公说:“我只认得二十年前的她。后来她变成什么样子谁能知道。但是如果是的话,绝对不是钱的因
素,而是恨。”

我们看着对方。这么多年夫妻了,心里想的是一个:李天乐他们刚刚买了房子,又添了小孩。虽然这
两件事都是压力大的事情,但是说明他们有一定经济基础,身份估计也拿到了,孩子更是老天的恩
赐。在这样的情况下,还有这样的人间悲剧,那么我们身边那么多没有钱,没有身份,或者没有孩子
的夫妻,不知是怎么过下来的。

现在想来,幸福的人,一定会有能幸福的思想和个性。房子身份这些身外物真的不是必要条件。二十
年前的李天乐,可以看到她那时挺顺利,并且恩怨分明。但是二十年后,如果遇上不顺,而又太较真
的话,在这样的容易坎坷的年龄,不伤人就伤己。

姐妹们,如果我们遇上生活中难以忍受的事情,要想开些,别剑走偏锋。让我们不开心的人我们可以
不打交道;让我们不开心的工作我们可以辞去;让我们不开心的事情我们可以忽略。这个世界这么
大,哪能路越走越窄?想想老人孩子,我们需要加强我们的心理承受能力,我们不要在老人孩子面前
软弱。

加油,姐妹们。

http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewJersey/31501825.html

卡拉 02-11-2011 23:10
Published: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 9:45 PM    
Updated: Friday, February 11, 2011, 5:31 AM
Sue Epstein/The Star-Ledger By Sue Epstein/The Star-Ledger

MONROE — Xiaoye Wang’s marriage to Tianle Li saw bitter arguments that frequently brought police to the couple’s home in Monroe Township.

"There were a fair number of calls (to police)," Middlesex County Assistant Prosecutor Nicholas Sewitch said today. "More than five."

Things got so bad that Wang, 39, filed for divorce in July, citing irreconcilable differences. He also sought joint custody of the couple’s 2-year-old son, Isaac.

Li, 40, counter-sued a month later, citing the same reason and adding there was "no hope for reconciliation."

The couple’s 10-year marriage appeared to be over.

But on Jan. 14, the day a hearing would be held to finalize the divorce, Wang admitted himself to the University Medical Center in Princeton with "virus-like" symptoms. He died 12 days later from thallium poisoning, which authorities allege was administered by his wife.

Li remained at the Middlesex County jail in North Brunswick today in lieu of $4.15 million bail, charged with murder and hindering her own apprehension. Her attorney, Steven Altman, said his client denies having anything to do with her husband’s death.

Records indicate Wang moved out of the couple’s home on Stanley Drive home in Monroe sometime in June and into a Jersey City apartment.

Preceding the legal steps to end their marriage were calls to police, starting in April 2009 — about seven months after they had moved to Monroe.

Sewitch said none of the calls resulted in charges because there was never any sign of violence or injury to either Li or Wang. While Sewitch would not comment on the origin of the couple’s disputes, neighbors said they often heard them arguing and witnessed frequent visits by police officers.

Wang worked as a computer software engineer in New York City, while Li is a research chemist at the Lawrenceville offices of Bristol-Myers Squibb, the pharmaceutical giant.

After Wang admitted himself into the hospital, his condition progressively deteriorated until he died Jan. 26, the day after doctors finally determined he was suffering from thallium poisoning. After much searching, an antidote was found but by the time it arrived at the hospital, Wang was near death and nothing could be done to save him.

The divorce hearing, which was postponed due to his illness, had been rescheduled for today.

Thallium is a highly toxic heavy metal that is tasteless and odorless. It was once used in rat poison and insecticides, but was banned for that use in the United States and other counties in the 1980s. It is still used in glass and electronics manufacturing and medicinally in stress tests to help diagnose coronary artery disease.

Sewitch has not said how the thallium was administered, nor whether it was given in several small doses over time or in one dose. All he would confirm was that it was ingested in December or January. He also would not comment on where Li allegedly obtained the thallium, though he did say it would have been available to her at Bristol-Myers, where she’s worked since 2001.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/monroe_woman_accused_of_poison.html

angela_whz 02-12-2011 01:58
谢谢卡总

Troublemaker 02-12-2011 09:15
这种帖子看着真过瘾,我是说卡总的综述

谢谢!!!

但是看这种帖子也不胜唏嘘,唉,这又是何苦???

卡拉 02-12-2011 12:30
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法坛发贴求助的那人懂英语,也懂找律师,应该不是王晓业的亲兄弟,是他在upenn读书的buddy,叫zhong jihua, 就是照片上两人搂着肩膀合影的那个右边西服男。 zhong在1997年在upenn机械系做访问学者,和王晓业是一个lab里的。王晓业和他无话不谈,生活上的事都跟zhong jihua说,对zhong 是很够意思,对别人就远不如对zhong好多了。

zhong jihua做过1998年upenn的学生会主席,(如果我没记错的话),说话干脆利落,简明扼要,是个精明干练之人。后来因为upenn科研经费不足,zhong jihua面临失去饭碗,要到别处找机会,再后来可能确实回国海归了。

我感觉他这次出来是想帮王家一把。

王晓业交际虽然很广,但不少人也对他敬而远之,一来是他追过一些女孩,二来是他对已经有主的女孩也敢动,所以,大多数单身男或者正处于热恋中的男生都对他有所戒备,他们不希望王晓业惹到自己的女孩头上。

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/myhouse/1663297.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 12:33
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见到有人写"和我擦肩而过的李天乐",我也写两句有关王晓业吧. 前几天看到铊杀案,感觉王晓业名字隐约有些熟悉,但也没多想.昨天看到照片,才意识到他是我UPENN时的室友! 我们和另外一位共住一个3-BEDROOM APARTMENT FOR A YEAR. 不过,虽是室友,大家接触并不太多.人人都早出晚归,就周末还聊聊. 王晓业确实人缘不错,而且人品很正. 不过我对他印象最深的,倒是他结婚搬出后的一件小事.一天,路上邂逅相遇,调侃他有老婆后是不是乐不思蜀,他居然认真地回答说他见到不少男的满足于老婆孩子热炕头不思进取.他一定不会那样.人生要有追求才有意义.他还问了我些WALL STREET的事.真可惜,这样一个挺不错的人的LIFE WAS CUT SHORT. 不过,值得庆幸的是,他确实在不断追求他的人生目标,过了有意义一生. 这也算不幸中的万幸吧. 就此写两句以表怀念.  

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/rdzn/1552637.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 12:39
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在城里瞎逛,铺天盖地是北大女杀清华夫的八卦。看到李天乐是北大90级从图书馆信息管理系转化学系的,再看看她的名字和照片,突然脑中一道闪光,二十年前的遥远记忆复活了 – 我认识她!

那时我对自己的热门专业越上课越缺乏兴趣 ,在90级化学系旁听一门课。除我外还有一个旁听生,是个白净秀气的女孩,就叫李天乐。因为就我们两个旁听生,我们经常坐在一起,有时缺课了就互相借看笔记,还一起和老师约给旁听生考试的时间。我旁听是三心二意的,李天乐却很认真,看来她是真的喜欢化学。我们除一起旁听过这门课外没别的交往。只记得她皮肤很细白,很文静的样子,每次来上课,和我打招呼时都笑眯眯的。我还依稀记得她那时的模样,看着她的出庭照片,越看越肯定是同一个人。突然就很烦躁伤感。真正是世事莫测。我们在各自的生活轨迹上擦肩而过,万万想不到同桌听课的那个秀气文静的,乐于借笔记给我的女孩,二十年后我会在报纸上看到她戴着手铐出庭的大幅照片。她经历了多少生活的残酷,时光的无情?二十年前她笑容灿烂的时候,何曾料到今日?

"Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." 二十年前,我们都拥有青春,美丽,对生活充满了希望。我相信她幸福过,甜蜜过。只是,“人无千日好,花无百日红”才是生活的常态。“记得当时年纪小”,再看看那时的亲朋故人,多少悲欢离合,多少物是人非。二十年前的我,和今天的我,又何尝能预知自己的漫漫人生路呢?

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/rdzn/1551635.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 12:46
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真的是他(想起这样的事会发生在自己身边禁不住浑身发抖):

被杀的王晓晔是清华精仪系的硕士生,本科南京大学的,硕士毕业就出国的,当时听他说读的是微机械,还说拿了全奖,现在才知道去的是u penn,他跟校方说自己没有钱买机票,问能不能预支奖学金,校方还真的就给他寄了支票(好像是2000美元的支票,我当时才知道原来还能这样做)。当时他是研究生,对本科生们并不友好,记得实验室新买的计算机,大家都在用,但是本科生们并没有妨碍他,但是有一天开始,他故意给实验室的计算机上了密码,只告诉另一个女研究生知道,不让我们用。感觉也是个心计重的人。当时并不知道他现在这个wife 的情况,当时有没有我们也不知道。也许两个心计重的人遇到了一起。

看了照片感觉很眼熟(比以前胖了),没想到真的是,居然他也来到这里工作,还出了事。一时间直觉得世事难料。很多人把这事归到清华北大的头上,我不觉得干清华北大什么事,死者也并非正宗清华人。其实也不干化学的事吧,不用毒用刀也可以女杀男。我只觉得中国教育普遍没有教给学生们一个正确的心理素质,而倒是人与人斗的故事居多,当我把国内买的故事给小孩子听的时候,lg不喜欢,跟我说,怎么都是人跟人斗的,斗赢了就觉得自己很聪明似的。反倒是 thomas的故事我们更喜欢,讲的是友情和合作的故事,我们更喜欢给小孩子看。到了国外,朋友少,压力大,性格孤僻的遇到问题无法开解,心理素质不健全的问题就凸现出来。2个人过不下去可以离婚,考虑到彼此的往日恩情和孩子,也可以彼此让一让,退一步,何至于要斗到你死我活。把兔子逼急了兔子也会咬人,当然也许有的兔子更爱咬人一些。

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/myhouse/1658620.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 12:51
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卡拉 02-12-2011 12:54
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我的同事的朋友跟李一个公司,BMS的,认识李。据说那里的中国人都没办法和她友好相处,她脾气很坏,而且不能容忍别人意见跟她不一样,总以为自己是对的。

据说他们离婚的原因是因为08年她生完孩子,婆婆来帮忙,婆媳矛盾冲突,李居然打她婆婆的耳光。婆婆走的时候跟他们说再也不来了。那以后,王开始要和李离婚。

据说王很开朗,很好的一个人,没有外遇。

他们的孩子在接受医院的化验,化验头发,结果还没出来,还在医院的监护下。

是不是她杀的我不知道,但能打婆婆耳光的人好不到哪里去

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/myhouse/1661776.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 13:05
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kongzz 于 2011-01-31

已经通知了领事馆。需要办理后事。 案子还在继续,但不知道怎么帮忙也不知道情况。 另外, 来美的手续怎么办。 要不要请律师。 请什么样的律师。 死者的资产能动用吗? 需要什么样的手续。 一系列的问题。 有知道相似情况的, 能否给讲讲,免得家里人着急。

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/law/118218.html


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單身老貓 于 2011-02-01

就您目前所提供的資料,可能沒有任何太好的建議. (您需要提供詳細的資料,包括人,事,地,物)

同時"聳人聽聞"的標題幫不了您什麼,如果您希望這樣可以吸引人注意,您真正很該死,如果這是真正的情況,請向了家屬轉達老貓的慰問與關懷. 同時如果有其他的需要,可以直接與老貓聯繫. (記住,人在做,天在看)  

原則上這是老貓能夠立即想到的事.  

(立即要做的)

(A) DO NOT sign anything !  (除非你們真正了解所簽署的東西是什麼,特別是國內來的家屬英文不見得好,所以你們需要協助家屬了解每一個需要簽署的文件的內容與用途)

(B) Find the original documents

  (I)銀行帳戶的資料

 (II)信用卡的資料

  (III)任何個人的保險資料 (人壽險,意外險...)

  (IV)任何遺囑.

(V)個人的債務

(VI)任何動產與不動產(房契,地契)的資料

(VII)車的資料.(車的 title,保險..)

(法律上)

如果這是一個刑事案件,(如同您標題所說的)家屬需要與當地司法機構直接聯絡,一般任何其他非家屬 (包括中領館的工作人員)很難做什麼. 同時在司法調查沒有完成之前,希望您不要再到處宣揚這是他的老婆所為,畢竟任何人在司法之前在沒有經過審判定罪之前都是無辜的,同時您並不知道"內情" (除非您是主只蚴枪卜�)所以您應該做的是協助家屬處理後事,而不是為朋友"申張正義",這個部份應該有司法機構來處理. 你應該"閉上你的嘴"... (很抱歉,老貓對於這個部份相當的不客氣,因為這是唯一能夠保障當事人的家屬與您的方式)

如果這是一個工業上的意外死亡,當事人的家屬需要找當地的律師(處理工商意外事故專業)來處理,然而先決條件是,必須要求當地的司法單位 release 死亡原因的調查報告.

如果這是一個醫療糾紛,同樣的,當事人的家屬需要找當地的律師 (處理醫療事故專業)來處理,然而先決條件是,必須要求當地法院出具命令要求醫院封鎖所有病患的醫療資料...

後事上 (資料引用)這個資料中有商業的廣告,所以老貓節錄部份內容如下.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2899444/what_should_you_do_if_a_friend_or_family.html?cat=17

(A)Report the Death to Thai Police - The most important thing you should do first is report the death of your friend or family member to the Thai police. By law, this must be done within the first 24 hours of death.

Reporting the Death to Your Embassy - While many foreigners will attempt to inform their embassy of the death, this actually isn't necessary. The Thai police will do it for you, and two reports may cause confusion, so let them do it. You can always contact your embassy later if you have any questions or need help.

Medical Examination - Once you have reported your friend or family member's death, the police will arrive and take the deceased's body to the Medical Examiner's office. Here, an autopsy will be performed to determine the cause of death. If the cause of death is determined to be suspicious (ie: foul play), the body will be held for a longer amount of time while a criminal investigation is begun and the body is examined for any other evidence.

Release of the Body - If the Medical Examiner decides your friend or family member died of natural causes or as the result of an accident, their body will be released to you within a couple of days. The Medical Examiner's office will also give you a death certificate, which you will need to use for any official business both in Thailand and back in your own country so make sure you don't lose it.
Return of the Body to Deceased's Home Country - Obviously, this is a more complicated, and much more expensive, choice than a basic Thai cremation ceremony.

Should you decide to repatriate the deceased's body, you will need the original medical examiner's death certificate, a civil death certificate (which you can also get at the ME's office), a letter stating you have permission to take the body out of the country, and a document certifying that the body has been embalmed (bodies are not allowed to be returned to the deceased's home country unless they have first been embalmed for health reasons).

You will then need to find an international funeral director, who will be well-versed in taking care of all of the arrangements. You will simply need to provide the paperwork, and sign any documents, and everything will be taken care of, including pick up of the deceased in their home country and transfer to a funeral home near where they are going to be buried

#

民事上

你們應該協助家屬整理死者的遺物與財產,同時去 ME (medical examiner ) office 取得死者的驗屍報告與死亡證明,然後去

(A)DMV office 註銷他的駕照.

(B)去銀行 close 他的銀行帳戶.

(C)Collect 他的 Social Security benefit (詳細資料如下)

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10008.html

(D) Collect 他的保險,(如果死因不涉及任何刑事犯罪的問題)

(E)準備所有稅務資料 for inheritance tax retturn. (各州有不同的表格,你們應該詢問當地的稅務機構). (如果當事人沒有預留遺囑,你們可能需要諮詢當地的律師來處理)

其他問題,其實你們可以詢問當地的葬儀社,一般他們會知道如何處理. 同時您可以參考這個資料

http://ezinearticles.com/?What-to-Do-When-a-Family-Member-Dies&id=3645172

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/law/118220.html


回答: 回复:急!兄弟在美国被毒死,他老婆正在被调查。大侠们,该怎么办

来源: kongzz 于 2011-02-01

hi, 老猫,

非常感谢!

不好意思, 事情仓促。 我也很忙。 没写清楚。 不过是事实。 他老婆IS UNDER INVESTIGATION. 这是警察跟我说的。我没说她犯罪。如果有误导,请见谅。 现在最主要的是要有NEXT KIN 的证明, 这样警察就会RELEASE INFORMATION 给他的家人。 我们正在和警方交涉。

但是你知道我们不是律师。所以需要一些指导。该怎么做。 自己心里有数。如果可能,我能直接和你联系吗?
Toxic substance eyed in man's death in Monroe Twp. - News12

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/law/118243.html

卡拉 02-12-2011 13:18
Toxic substance eyed in man's death in Monroe Twp.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:o-fMrkL1HmIJ:www.news12.com/articleDetail.jsp%3FregionId%3D2%26articleId%3D272412%26position%3D1%26news_type%3Dnews+xiaoye+wang+toxic&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_zh-CN|lang_en&source=www.google.com

卡拉 02-12-2011 13:31
来源:文学城首页 » 热点讨论主题 » 人在北美
7.5 于 2011-02-09

Time Line

2000: Got married. 10-year marriage up to August, 2010

2008, some time before July, their son was born.

  (It is natural to assume that they were under the stress of taking care of the
  newborn since then.)

September, 2008, moved to Monroe (should be Monroe Township, according to
  their property address), New Jersy.

  They purchased a house in September.
  Seven months later they started to call police due to bitter arguments.


April 2009 ~ July, 2010, More than 5 times call to police due to arguments.

  No one was injured and no restraining orders were ever filed as a result of the
  police visits.

  (The reasons of arguments have not been released by police.)


June, 2010, Wang moved out of the couple's home on Stanley Drive home in Monroe
  and into a Jersey City apartment.

July, 2010, Wang, 39, filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences.
  He also sought joint custody of the couple’s 2-year-old son, Isaac.

August, 2010, Li, 40, counter-sued, citing the same reason and adding there was
  "no hope for reconciliation."

Jan. 14, 2011, the day a hearing would be held to finalize the divorce, Wang
  admitted himself to the University Medical Center in Princeton with "virus-like"
  symptoms. He died 12 days later from thallium poisoning, which authorities allege
  was administered by his wife.

  Thallium poisoning typically includes loss of hair, thickened skin, severe
  gastrointestinal pain and loss of feeling in the extremities. Wang didn't present
  many of those symptoms until a few days after his arrival, Marcus said.

Jan. 22 or 23, 2011, Wang lapsed into a coma. Wang did not respond to treatment
  and continued to worsen.

  At that point a nurse recalled cases of thallium poisoning in China in the 1990s
  and suggested Wang's urine be tested, Sewitch said. No lab in New Jersey was
  capable of performing the test, so Wang's urine sample was sent out of state.

  Twenty-four hours later, the diagnosis of thallium poisoning was confirmed and
  Marcus was notified.

Jan. 25, 2011, around 9 p.m., Steven Marcus, the medical and executive director
  of New Jersey Poison Control, received a call from University Medical Center in
  Princeton. A doctor was on the other end of the line telling him about Wang
  and that thallium had been discovered in his system.

  ...Steven Marcus launched efforts to seek treatment...

  Nearly two hours after leaving his home, Marcus arrived in Princeton. The
  non-medical grade Prussian Blue had been administered through a gastric tube,
  but Wang had showed no response.

  In the meantime, Marcus had contacted a federal facility near Albany, N.Y., that
  had the purer form of the antidote, and an SUV was dispatched to Princeton. When
  it finally arrived five hours later, Wang was near death.

  The antidote would be useless. Marcus, along with a number of doctors and nurses,
  stood beside Wang'bed, unable to do anything more.

  Sometime around 3 p.m. on Jan. 26, as several detectives stood nearby, Wang's
  heart monitor flatlined.

Jan, 26, 2011, around 3 p.m., Wang died.

Jan, 28, 2011, Li was initially charged with hindering her own
  apprehension after she made false statements to investigators on Jan. 28, two
  days after her husband died, The Star-Ledger reported.

  The New Jersey State Police and Middlesex County Hazardous Materials Units
  conducted a search of the Wang's Middlesex County home and concluded that
  no one else had been exposed to the toxic metal.

  According to the Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office, Li obtained an
  undetermined amount Thallium and fed it to her husband sometime in December
  2010 or January 2011. Nicholas Sewitch, deputy assistant Middlesex County
  prosecutor, declined to release specifics on how Li allegedly poisoned Wang.

  At room temperature, Thallium is a very pliant, dissolvable metal you can
  cut with a knife. It is easily absorbed through the skin by inhalation, or
  ingested orally. Thallium dissolves quickly in liquids so if one were to use
  it as a poison; its salts are colorless, odorless and tasteless, therefore
  making it undetectable in food or soft drinks. Thallium poisoning takes
  several days to manifest so one would not know they have been poisoned right
  away.

  Dr. Anil Aggrawal, professor of Forensic Medicine and Editor-in-Chief of
  the Internet Journal of Forensic Medicine and Toxicology said the amount
  of Thallium needed to kill a human being would be about 0.6 to 0.7g,
  considered the somewhat less than the average dose, and death would likely
  occur within 11 to 16 days.


Feb. 8, 2011. Hearing in which Li was charged with the murder of Xiaoye Wang, 39.

  Tianle Li, 40, dressed in green jail garb and wearing gold glasses, calmly listened
  as Superior Court Judge Michael Toto explained her rights and what legal procedures
  would follow today's hearing.

  Li remained at the Middlesex County jail in North Brunswick today in lieu of
  $4.15 million bail, charged with murder and hindering her own apprehension by
  "lying to police" when they began investigating Wang's death, Sewitch said.

  Her attorney, Steven Altman, said his client denies having anything to do with
  her husband's death.

Feb. 10, 2011, the divorce hearing, which was postponed due to his illness, had
  been rescheduled for today.


Note: The information was from the published articles quoted on the bottom of this post.


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抽刀断水 02-12-2011 13:41
藕滴天哪,卡总俺对您的崇拜之情如滔滔江水。
您都是上哪挖来得的呀。

沧桑 02-12-2011 16:18
找错老婆上错床,人生之大悲剧。

乐淘淘 02-12-2011 18:39
引用
引用第14楼卡拉于02-11-2011 22:14发表的  :
[attachment=51105]
王和李于2008年在新泽西购买的价值63万的豪宅

http://www.freenjsearch.com/nj/1705556-WANG,-XIAOYE-&-LI,-TIANLE/


点进那个链结,真是吓一跳,那是一幢地处丁字路口,大门正冲着两条马路交汇点的所谓恶劣风水的房子,怪不得有凶险之事发生!

冰水 02-12-2011 20:40
因为老公出轨,就要把老公置于死地的大奶,都有严重的心理疾病,我希望咱们坛子里不要发生李天乐事件,所有的大奶,千万别死磕,痛快离婚,给自己一条生路,祝大家新年愉快。

宝子妈 02-13-2011 00:24
谢谢卡总,工程浩瀚。

username 02-13-2011 00:31
海外华人犯罪率奇低无比

卡拉 02-13-2011 23:49
Published: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 8:00 AM    
Updated: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 8:17 AM
By Star-Ledger Staff

MONROE — In April 1995, two college undergraduates in China posted a message on the internet:

"Hi. This is Peking University … A young 21-year old student has become very sick and is dying … Doctors at the best hospitals in Beijing cannot cure her … So now we are asking the world — can somebody help us?"

Their friend, Zhu Ling, a chemistry student, was suffering stomach pain and hair loss and was slowly becoming immobilized. The paralysis had spread up into her diaphragm and was now preventing her from breathing. If the cause wasn’t found soon, she would probably die.

More than 2,000 people around the world heeded the call for help, and a graduate student and professor in the department of radiological sciences at UCLA reviewed the replies and came up with an answer: thallium poisoning.

Ling’s doctors tested their patient, confirmed the diagnosis and administered the only known antidote, Prussian blue, according to international news accounts. Ling survived, but was left with permanent neurological damage and severe cognitive deficits.

The case was widely publicized in China. Police questioned one of Ling’s roommates, but no one was ever charged.

That same year, Tianle Li, who today sits in a North Brunswick jail charged with fatally poisoning her husband, graduated with a degree in chemistry from Tshingua University, which is in the same Beijing neighborhood as Peking University.

It is impossible to know if Li knew about the Ling case, but a nurse at University Medical Center in Princeton remembered it last month, according to Steven Marcus, medical and executive director of New Jersey Poison Control.

Although authorities have refused to release the name of the nurse, it was she who suggested testing Li’s then-critically ill husband for thallium poisoning. The results were positive, but the rush to save Xiaoye Wang’s life ultimately proved futile.

Middlesex County Assistant Prosecutor Nicholas Sewitch confirmed last week that Wang was given a "lethal, massive" amount of thallium.

Sprinkled on food or dissolved in liquid, thallium has been called the "poisoner’s poison" and "inheritance powder." It’s been dusted on doughnuts, cakes and protein shakes; dissolved in bottles of cola and beer; poured into cups of tea and glasses of vodka; and found in saltshakers, candy canes and boxes of chocolate.

Thallium is a rare, nondescript heavy metal, and it is what prosecutors say Bristol-Myers Squibb chemist Li allegedly used to kill her husband.

Li, who has a 2-year-old son by Wang, remains in jail in lieu of $4.15 million bail. Her attorney, Steven Altman, says he plans to file motions Monday for two hearings.
"The bail is extremely excessive," he said. "She wants her child. She has no reason to leave or go anywhere."

The other hearing is for probable cause, to force the prosecutor’s office to "show information that (she) poisoned her husband or have the judge order her released."
While unusual as a murder weapon, thallium has been the tool of choice for everyone from spiteful spouses to heads of state seeking to punish political opponents.
Amnesty International and investigators from the World Health Organization say that thallium was used under Iraqi despot Saddam Hussein to kill hundreds of dissidents.

In 1981, Shawkat Akrawi, an industrial chemist in Iraq, made a surreptitious phone call from a Baghdad hospital to a reporter at New Scientist magazine in Great Britain. He spoke in Kurdish, according to an article the magazine published a short time later:

"The accident they arranged didn’t kill me," Akrawi told the reporter, "so they gave me thallium in the hospital where I am being treated."

Akrawi told the writer, "Say goodbye to everybody." Then the line went dead.

PAINFUL POISON

Experts say thallium, which is colorless, odorless and tasteless, is often chosen by the nefarious because it is slow-acting, painful and its wide-ranging symptoms are suggestive of a host of other illnesses and conditions.

"There is a triad of symptoms: gastrointestinal, peripheral neuropathy (nerve damage to the extremities) and hair loss," said Steven Marcus, medical and executive director of New Jersey Poison Control.

Marcus says those who choose thallium as a weapon "tend to be more cowardly than other kind of murderers. Poison puts a distance so the poisoner doesn’t have to be near when the victim dies."

In 1962, a year after Agatha Christie published a thallium-based murder mystery, a British teen named Graham Young used the heavy metal to kill his stepmother and sicken several other family members. Although committed to an institution for the criminally insane, Young was released in 1971 and promptly killed two co-workers and seriously injured two more — all with thallium poisoning. Young was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences, and in 1990 died in prison from a heart attack at age 42.

As recently as 2002, a 61-year-old Long Island woman, Ann Perry, confessed to poisoning her longtime boyfriend by lacing his milkshake with thallium.
In 1997, Joann Curley of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., confessed to authorities she’d killed her husband six years earlier by spiking his daily thermos of ice tea with thallium over nine months.

Before the downfall of apartheid, South African agents had plans to slip thallium into Nelson Mandela’s medication, according to a report from the country’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission. And last year, a former senior adviser to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat alleged Israeli military agents poisoned Arafat with the heavy metal.

Even the CIA had dreamed up a plot to use thallium to embarrass Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. The idea was, according to Senate hearings held in the mid-1970s, to dust Castro’s shoes with thallium so the hair of his legendary beard would fall out.

Thallium is relatively slow-acting, and a lethal dose usually takes almost two weeks to debilitate and kill, according to experts. Symptoms don’t begin until days after the poison is ingested and often start with stomach pain and vomiting.

When Wang was admitted to the hospital in Princeton on Jan. 14, he was scheduled to appear in court with his wife to finalize their divorce. Hours before he became ill, however, he called his lawyer, Michael Green. Wang was distraught, says Green, because he needed to postpone the hearing. His wife’s aunt was suddenly ill and had been taken to the emergency room.

Although Li’s aunt recovered and returned home that day — she later tested negative for thallium, according to Li’s criminal attorney, Altman — a new court date was set for Jan. 27.

But on either Jan. 25 or 26, says Green, he received a call from Li’s divorce lawyer, Frederick Simon, saying Li had just informed him that Wang had been in the hospital since Jan. 14 and the divorce proceedings would again have to be postponed.

"She did not inform my adversary or me that he was sick or passed until the day he died," Green said. "That was shocking to me to say the least."

RETURNS HOME

Although Wang had rented an apartment in Jersey City, he had moved back into the couple’s home in Monroe several months earlier, according to Green, because he "wanted to spend a considerable amount of time with his child."

Green said he had been trying to reach his client by phone for two weeks, but to no avail; only when Simon phoned him and told him there was a story in the newspaper about Wang’s death did he know his client was deceased.

Rich Huang, co-founder of the financial analytics company PolyPaths in Manhattan, and Wang’s boss for the past four years, did not know either.

"On Monday (Jan. 17) he called in saying he was not feeling well and was in the hospital," said Huang. "He got along with everyone in the company. … Everyone is in shock."

Wang is gone, Li is in jail, and the couple’s son, Isaac, is in the care of the Division of Youth and Family Services. When one of the parties dies before a divorce can be finalized in New Jersey, the issue of custody enters what lawyers call a "black hole," said Li’s divorce attorney, Simon.

Last week, the only person answering the door at the couple’s stately home on Stanley Drive in Monroe was Li’s aunt. Speaking in Mandarin, she refused to answer a reporter’s questions.

Li has no other relatives in the United States, according to Simon. She came to America in 1998, he said, married in 2000 and became a citizen in August 2010.

"The issue is whether Mr. Wang’s family (in China) has an interest in pursuing any of the issues that came up in the divorce proceedings," said Simon, because right now, "we’re in the black hole."

Staff Writer Amy Brittain contributed to this report.
By Amy Ellis Nutt and Sue Epstein/The Star-Ledger

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/thallium_is_favored_method_of.html

黄胖胖 02-14-2011 01:33
卡总你简直就是机器猫小叮当。

maggie 02-14-2011 02:19
卡总贴的朱令中毒的事件,天涯上有一个百页的帖子,我跟过,据说当年被怀疑投毒的学生,是有背景和家世的,也不知道真的假的,后来还被网友人肉过。朱令的家,就在北京的方庄,和我是一个小区,她定期都在老父母和保姆的照顾下,在方庄的一所医院康复。

可怜她的老父母,一双儿女都是聪慧过人,大女儿也是考取北京重点大学的,还没毕业去北京郊区游玩儿就神秘失踪了,再也找不到,连尸骨最后都没有找到。朱令又是这么个样子。好像他们班很多同学都在美国,为她成立了一个基金会,能帮一点是一点的,哎!

人间悲剧。

卡拉 02-14-2011 17:52
来源:Seagull Reference
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2011

A person with information posted online about details of Wang Xiaoye's death. The Princeton Medical Hospital failed to take the patient's allegation of poisoning seriously, and subsequent delay in diagnose and obtaining treatment caused the patient's life.

1) Wang talked to the Hospital regarding possible poisoning by chemist wife in the middle of a bitter divorcing process when he checked himself in on Jan 14;

2) The Hospital thought Wang was insane, and assigned a mental doctor;

3) On or about Jan 17, it happened that a Chinese nurse was assigned to Wang's bed on a 12 hours shift. This magic nurse recorded Wang's symptoms and Googled online after going home. All findings point to one possibility, Thallium poisoning. The Hospital was notified immediately;

4) The Hospital performed a test for Thallium, which needed an out-of-State agency to interpret the result. The positive result took one week to arrive on January 25, too late. Whiling waiting for the official testing result, even though all findings point to Thallium, the Hospital did not attempt to treat Wang, for the entire 7 days. The Hospital saw the patient living a terrible death, to his last breath.

其实早在1月底我已经知晓美国新泽西普林斯顿大学医学院的铊毒案,当时美国FBI 已经介入,消息不多只是知道那个死去的男的39岁无锡人,现在是华裔美国人,1月14日当时入院的时候病情一天天加重,他提示有可能是妻子投毒,原因是他和妻子关系不好,同时他们在闹离婚,但是美国医生不认同他的说法,还派了个精神病科的医生去医治,不过后来看其症状像是中毒,按照医院的常规检测但是一直也没有结果,到1月17日左右正好有个华裔护士换班看护他,因为前面那个护士8小时后下班,接班的护士是12小时的班,还要看护4个小时。她精于工作,观察了病人的症状并且做了记录,回家以后立即上网查这样的症状,没想到的是显示这样的症状的是朱令案子里面的铊中毒,第一时间她就电告医师,希望做铊的检查,因为铊的检查需要专门的仪器,最后在1月25号报告才出来,病人身体里面含有大量的铊,美国方面立刻动用普鲁士蓝,但是大雪封路,全美只有很少的地方有这个药,最后那个病人还是在1月26日死去。接着从FBI口中知道那个妻子是1998年从北京过去美国的,当是我心里一惊,因为在这以前我已经大量的了解了朱令案,当时我的判断是北京过去的不是清华就是北大,因为名牌大学出国容易,男的是39岁,女的估计小一点,可能也是1973年生的,名字里有个 LEE,应该姓李吧!后来证实女的40岁,是北大的,应该是71年的。据说那个男的死的时候是很痛苦的,人已经被铊毒摧残的不像样子了。可怜啊!死的时候牧师做了祷告。从这件事情我第一次了解了朱令案,我不想品论谁是凶手,但是我极端痛恨凶手,我想凶手死了以后肯定是要下地狱的,不论在中国还是在国外,她?他?会受到惩罚。一个人道德良心上受的煎熬比身体的煎熬更加可怕。即使她或者他是个无神论者,但是我认为这个罪孽是几辈子也消不了的。祸延几代。铊是可怕的,更加可怕的是她或者他

The same poster windly2011 wrote about the case on Feb 2, 2011, earlier than it was reported in the media, therefore, it looks like a credible source.

最近在美国新泽西有个39岁的男子(无锡人)也是中的铊毒,死的很惨,据说也是被投毒的,发觉以后已经不治,他妻子是1998年过去美国的学的是化学,但是没有证据证明她能够拿到铊毒,据说女的要离婚男的不肯,后来就遭遇不测,有个两岁的孩子。美国警方已经进入调查。朱令的案子是1994年,估计那届毕业的也就在1997年左右。那个妻子正是1998年过去的,也是北京人,好像姓李。是不是朱令的同学有待调查。在这里我想要说的是天网恢恢,恶人必将受到天谴,必将下地狱,我们为朱令受到的伤害感到痛惜,但是我们也希望凶手被早日绳之以法。关注!

http://seagullreference.blogspot.com/2011/02/insider-faulted-hospital-for-thallium.html

lili 02-14-2011 18:16
卡肿就是卡肿, 谢谢这些深度报道。。。

卡拉 02-14-2011 20:36
Published: Monday, February 14, 2011, 7:36 PM    
Updated: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:32 PM
By Sue Epstein/The Star-Ledger

MONROE — The attorney for a Monroe Township woman, charged with fatally poisoning her husband with thallium, filed motions in New Brunswick to force the prosecutor to reveal the evidence against her.

Steven Altman filed motions today asking to reduce Tianle Li’s bail from $4.15 million for murder and hindering her own apprehension, to something more within court guidelines for the charges.

Altman is also seeking a probable cause hearing, at which Middlesex County Assistant Prosecutor Nicholas Sewitch would have to present enough evidence he has to support the charges against Li.

Authorities have said Li, a research chemist, obtained radioactive thallium and administered a dose to Wang in December or January.

Altman said in the papers the complaint charging Li, 40, with murdering Xiaoye Wang, 39, who died Jan. 26 at University Medical Center in Princeton, lists only "statements of witnesses and the defendant, a toxicological analysis and the results of police investigation" as the probable cause.

"No facts are presented that directly connect Ms. Li to the allegations," the attorney said. He asks that "if the state is unable to produce evidence on the date set by the court, the criminal complaint against her (Li) should be dismissed without prejudice."

As for bail, Altman asked it be reduced to an amount "commensurate with the applicable bail guidelines," which are between $5,000 and $10,000 for the hindering charge and between $250,000 and $1 million for the murder.

No court date has been set for the motions.

Li, a research chemist at Bristol-Myers Squib in Lawrenceville, was arrested Jan. 28, two days after her husband died.

Hospital officials did not confirm until Jan. 25, after testing for many other causes for his symptoms, that Wang had thallium poisoning.

The couple were scheduled to finalize their divorce on Jan. 14, the date Wang went to the hospital. The couple, who have a 23-month-old son, moved into the Monroe home in Sept. 2008, but began having problems in April 2009.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/defense_requests_bail_reductio.html

平安 02-14-2011 20:46
谢谢卡总的,极有深度,特别翔实的转贴。。。

这是一场没有赢家的家庭悲剧,对于一个才俩岁的孩子来说,爹死娘入狱,这是怎样一个残酷的未来啊。

如果Lee真是凶手,我不知道她心理是如何考虑孩子的将来的。也许,她真的以为她是世界上最聪明的人,可以瞒天过海的。

人聪明本是上天的一种偏爱,但是,若不能理性地对待自己的聪明,把它用到极端的时候,就是聪明反被聪明误了。。。

成也聪明,毁亦聪明也!!!

username 02-16-2011 00:19
毛错呀

卡拉 02-19-2011 08:53
来源:中新社

据美国《世界日报》报道,涉嫌毒杀亲夫的华裔女子李天乐(译音,下同)代表律师艾特曼,14日提出动议,要求检察官公开指控证据。

艾特曼并要求将李天乐的保释金降低。李天乐因涉嫌谋杀并妨碍警方被逮捕,目前保金高达415万元。根据法院指导方针,涉嫌妨碍指控的保释金为5000元到一万元;涉嫌谋杀案的保释金则为25万元到100万元。

艾特曼试图争取,针对可能导致控诉的原因召开听证会,要求检控官在听证会上提出充分证据,证明必须控诉李天乐。

有关当局称,任职化学研究员的李天乐,在去年12月或今年1月,用金属铊下毒,谋杀丈夫王晓晔。艾特曼在文件中指出,现年40岁的李天乐,被指谋杀39岁的王晓晔,但检方所列举的指控原因只包括证人及被告的证词、毒物学分析以及警方调查报告。王晓晔于1 月26日在普林斯顿大学医院去世。

艾特曼说,有关当局并未提出任何事实,足以证明李天乐与该指控有直接的关联。若州府无法在法院预定的日期之前提出证据,就应抛弃偏见,撤销针对李天乐所提出的刑事指控。

法院审议该动议的日期尚未定。

卡拉 03-15-2011 23:02
来源:美国星岛日报
2011-03-15

 本报讯:新泽西州华裔女子李天乐(Tianle Li,译音,见图左)涉嫌用铊(thallium)毒杀丈夫王晓业(Xiaoye Wang)的案件,一名检察官14日表示,在王躺在普林斯顿医院等待死亡的时候,李天乐仍给王喂毒药。

  新泽西州《明星纪事报》网站报道,在王陷入昏迷时,40岁的李天乐试图买两张返回中国的单程机票,一张买给自己,一张买给两岁的儿子。本身是必治妥施贵宝公司(Bristol-Myers Squibb)科学家的李天乐,上月被控与丈夫办理离婚期间谋杀39岁的丈夫王晓业。

  中萨克斯(Middlesex)县助理检察官西维治14日在新州新布伦斯维克市举行的聆讯上说:「她(李天乐)给丈夫喂毒药,直到他死为止。」

  西维治说,虽然李天乐在公司里所做的研究不能获得铊,但她在公司的供应室里取得这种元素。「她要了4瓶铊,在她交还瓶子时,超过90%的铊不知所终。」

  西维治表示,李是在去年12月或今年1月的某天开始用铊喂丈夫,而王是在今年1月14日因为出现感染病毒征状而送入普林斯顿大学医疗中心的。

  西维治并无确实说明李天乐如何毒杀王晓业的详情,只说她在接受调查人员问话时「否认与铊有任何关系」。

  西维治还说,李天乐曾为儿子申请签证,准备把他带回中国;而在王晓业死亡前两天,李天乐试图购买两张机票。

  在14日的聆讯举行前,李天乐的律师奥特曼要求降低对李的保释金,以便她返回门罗(Monroe)镇的家,以及取回现时在一个寄养家庭里寄住的儿子的监护权。

  新州高等法院法官杜图拒绝奥特曼的要求,仍将李天乐的谋杀控罪保释金定为400万元,妨碍起诉控罪的保释金定为15万元。

  在聆讯期间,李天乐双手被铐在前面,静静地坐着,脸部表现出害怕和痛苦。其从北京老家前来的母亲张俭(Jian Zhang,译音)也在法庭里,由律师陪同,并为她翻译。

卡拉 03-15-2011 23:06
Prosecutor says Monroe woman continued to poison estranged husband at Princeton hospital

Published: Monday, March 14, 2011, 9:27 PM     Updated: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 5:44 AM
By Star-Ledger Staff

MONROE — While Xiaoye Wang lay dying in a Princeton hospital in January, his estranged wife continued to feed him poison, a prosecutor said today.

And when her husband fell into a coma, Tianle Li, 40, tried to buy two one-way tickets — for herself and her 2-year-old son — back to her native China. Li, a scientist at Bristol-Myers Squibb, was charged last month with murdering Wang in the midst of divorce proceedings.

"She poisoned her husband to death," said Middlesex County Assistant Prosecutor Nicholas Sewitch at a hearing in New Brunswick.

Sewitch said Li obtained thallium, a highly toxic heavy metal that is tasteless and odorless, from the supply room at Bristol-Myers Squibb, although the research she was doing did not require it.

"She ordered (four) bottles of thallium," he said. "When she returned the bottles, over 90 percent of the thallium was gone."

Today’s hearing was scheduled after Li’s attorney, Steven Altman, filed motions to reduce her bail so his client could return to her home in Monroe and regain custody of her son, now in a foster home under the control of the state’s Division of Youth and Families.

In part, the hearing was a way for Altman to force the prosecutor to reveal evidence why Li’s bail should remain so high.

Superior Court Judge Michael Toto denied Altman’s motion, keeping bail at $4 million for the charge of murder and another $150,000 on a charge of hindering her own apprehension. A probable cause hearing was scheduled for April 26.

Li sat quietly, her hands cuffed in front of her, during the hearing, an expression of fear and pain on her face. Her mother, Jian Zhang, was in the courtroom, having traveled from her home in Beijing, China. She was accompanied by an attorney who spoke Chinese and translated for her and declined to comment after the proceedings.

Li began feeding her husband thallium sometime in December or January, according to Sewitch, which was before Wang, a computer engineer, admitted himself into University Medical Center in Princeton on Jan. 14, complaining of virus-like symptoms.

The prosecutor did not detail exactly how Li poisoned Wang, and said that when she was questioned by investigators, "she denied anything to do with thallium."

But during today’s hearing Sewitch told Toto that Li applied for a rush visa for her son in order to take him to China, and that two days before her husband died she tried to purchase airplane tickets.

On Jan. 28, just 48 hours after Wang’s death, authorities charged Li with hindering her own apprehension and jailed her. Two weeks later, she was charged with murder.

Li and Wang, who was 39 at the time of his death and also a native of China, were married in 2001 and were in the final stages of divorce, with the final hearing to dissolve their marriage scheduled for Jan. 14, but the hearing was postponed.

That day, Wang, a computer engineer in New York, took himself to the hospital. His condition deteriorated until he died Jan. 26, the day after doctors determined he was suffering from thallium poisoning.

The heavy metal can be bought over the internet, in powder or liquid form. Before it was banned for household use in this country almost 30 years ago, it was popular as a rodenticide and insecticide and is still used in the pharmaceutical industry, in glass and electronics manufacturing and medicinally in stress tests to help diagnose coronary artery disease.

Symptoms of thallium poisoning usually begin with gastrointestinal distress, followed by increasing nerve pain, hair loss, blindness and coma. There is only one antidote, Prussian blue, which is not readily available in the United States. Despite heroic efforts by the New Jersey Poison Control Center, state’s department of health and senior services, a sufficient dose of Prussian blue did not arrive until Wang was near death, and at that point, said doctors, nothing could more could be done to save him.

By Sue Epstein and Amy Ellis Nutt/The Star-Ledger

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/prosecutor_says_monroe_woman_c.html

卡拉 06-27-2011 20:03
来源:世界日报

涉嫌毒杀丈夫的美国新泽西州孟若市40岁华裔妇女李天乐无力负担律师费,她的代表律师史提芬‧艾特曼,近日请求高等法院法官免除他担任李天乐的法律顾问,因为李天乐没有足够的钱来支付律师费。

李天乐被指控在两个月时间内,在食物中搀入金属铊给丈夫王晓晔食用,导致他于今年1月26日死亡。当局指出,在必治妥‧施宝贵制药公司担任化学员的李天乐,是利用工作之便取得金属铊。如今,李天乐需到8月才能获悉是否需要另外聘请一名新律师。

李天乐的律师艾特曼说,李天乐负担不起律师费,但她需要律师为她辩护。

李天乐与丈夫共同拥有他们目前居住的房屋,但房产尚未出售。案发时,他们正在办理离婚手续。

艾特曼说,“李天乐希望能够出售房屋,以支付她的辩护费用,但由于部分房产属丈夫所有,目前她无法售屋。”李天乐希望能够继续聘用艾特曼担任她的律师。

高院法官图托22日听取了艾特曼的提议,但将听证会延期到8月1日召开,届时他才会决定是否允许艾特曼退出该案。

李天乐目前被囚禁在密德萨士郡郡立监狱,等候以415万元的保释金交保。

卡拉 08-05-2011 07:02
来源:侨报
2011/8/5

  据美国《侨报》报道,美国新泽西州华人工程师王晓业(Xiaoye Wang,音译)疑因被妻子李天乐(Tianle-Li)投铊毒致死,其家人日前向雇用李天乐的知名制药公司施贵宝(Bristol-Myers Squibb)提出诉讼,理由是施贵宝公司明知道李天乐状态不稳定,但仍然允许她从公司实验室领取有剧毒的金属铊。

  李天乐和王晓业分别毕业于北大和清华,住在新州门罗镇(Monroe Township),李天乐在施贵宝公司当化学研究员,王晓业是一名电脑工程师。两人于2008年生下一子,但婚姻亮起红灯,他们本来应该在2011年1月14日办完离婚的最后手续,但当天王晓业到普林斯顿大学医疗中心住院,26日死亡,死因是金属铊中毒。

  据英文媒体Star-Ledger报道,王的家人上周在坎登(Camden)的高等法院提出诉讼,指控施贵宝公司不应该让李天乐拿到毒性极强的金属铊。诉状称,施贵宝公司知道李天乐状态不稳定,并且以前曾经威胁过一个同事,那位同事有针对李天乐的保护令。

  诉状还指出医生疏忽失职。王晓业告诉医生他有类似中毒的症状,他认为妻子李天乐向他投毒,但医生没有把他的话当回事,认为那是“妄想综合症”(paranoid syndrome)。直到王晓业死亡的前一天,医院一直允许李天乐在没有监督的情况下去探望他。

  2月份李天乐被控告投毒杀夫,执法当局认为李天乐从2010年11月起就开始向丈夫下毒。她目前关押在监狱。

  执法当局说李天乐给儿子申请加急护照准备把他送回中国,并在丈夫死亡的两天前试图购买飞机票。

  王晓业的遗产代理律师蒙格路兹(Robert Mongeluzzi)说,假如制药公司和医院尽职的话,王晓业至今还活着。施贵宝公司知道,或应该知道李天乐是个不稳定的人,不应该让她拿到可以致命的铊毒。医院的工作人员,包括医生在内,当病人担心生命危险时,他们应该倾听病人的话,相反,他们让李天乐把事情干到底。这听起来像电视剧,但悲剧的确发生了。


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