Ha Ha Ha, I like your humor, Ping.

DaiPei,

I have satellite TV and can receive both the ChungTeng channel and
news channel from China, that's why I would like to know where you
got your informations.

正好ling1984在，说个题外话，你的笔名有什么意义吗？1984有什么意义吗？

很冒昧，只是这个名字跟我的一个朋友特别有缘，所以问问，说不定遇到故人了呢

wuyu,

I met my husband in the year 1984.

To Ling1984

Maybe what George W Bush said is right,"Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. " So there is no person who is neutral. Don't try to be impatial or unbiased. While you were charging Troublemaker too quick to jump to a conclusion, you definitely showed that you are on the side of Bian. On politics, there is no right or wrong and simply you are on this side or on the other side. But I am sorry to say on this forum you are absolutely on the side of minority. To me, i even don't want to speak of Bian. That is my position on this issue.

ling1984,谢谢你的回复

你的笔名好浪漫丫

DaiPei,

If anyone gets a chance to watch the ChungTeng news, he or she will
have less bias on this gunshot incident. I did not record the news, but I
watched the news for more than 4 hours on the news press both parties
made public. It is a criminal case and very likely is related to gamble.
Nothing related to political play so far. That's why I don't want to see
any early conclusion made in this website to influence people. Let more
proofs come out.

老大说的是对的。这个坛子不能谈政治，一谈就吵架。　政治就是个观点问题，不存在对与不对。所谓的对，公正都是相对的。今日台湾倒让我想到文革，天天都是这样乱哄哄的。好多夫妻离婚都因为观点不同。难怪有人说，不到台湾，不知文化大革命还在搞。

个人认为中国目前根本不适合民主。如果台湾明天的结果象２０００年美国大选，肯定会发生暴乱。中国人不会太轻易象美国人那样平静地接受那种结果。什么可能都会发生。

不再谈政治，仅此两帖。

DaiPei,

Do you think the purse can resist the bullets? Lu's wound is in the knee,
why would she want to protect her stomach? I think Lu had better give
her purse to Bian.

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扁呂槍擊事件10大懸疑


台灣總統陳水扁在台灣大選的緊要關頭突中槍受輕傷，由於時間、地點、過程都充滿懸疑，受到各方質疑，指事件可能是綠營自編自導自演的鬧劇。香港文匯報綜合事件的十大疑點，供讀者參考。


　1.陳水扁出巡為甚麼打破常規不坐防彈車，不穿防彈衣？

　陳水扁及呂秀蓮是現任台灣「總統」及「副總統」，有兩百特勤人員負責他們及其家人的安全，這次他們同車出席競選活動，保安應該加倍嚴格，但為甚麼反而甚麼防避都不做，連保安人員建議陳水扁穿避彈衣也被一句「信任國安人員」拒絕。台灣前「國安局」特勤中心執行長彭子文就提出這個疑問，他認為整個槍擊事件的發生和事後的處理有不少需要釐清的地方。

　2.陳水扁被槍擊事件為甚麼在這個時候發生？

　台灣大選展開至今，民進黨的選情一直不佳，就算綠營搞「二二八」活動一度將選情拉緊，也在國親搞了「三一三」大遊行而再度拉開差距。有人懷疑基於這個原因，所以民進黨在此時此刻自編自導自演了這場戲。至於槍擊事件為何選在選前一天的下午？有學者指出，這個時間距離停止競選活動不到半天。在這競選的關鍵時刻，突然發生如此嚴重的意外事件，結果就是所有競選活動被迫取消，這對泛藍陣營是非常非常不利的舉措，等於是對連戰和宋楚瑜實行全面封殺。如果不是發生這件事，藍營最低限度還有一個表達的渠道和造勢的機會，凝聚選情，現在全部沒有了，肯定對選舉有影響。而綠營則在事件中大獲其利，事發後，所有台灣傳媒都聚焦到陳水扁身上，電視畫面全是綠營支持者的鏡頭，直至深夜。

　3、槍擊事件為甚麼在綠營勢力最強的台南發生？

　為什麼這次槍擊事件這麼巧合發生在陳水扁的家鄉台南市?而事件發生時周圍都是支持他的民眾。大陸權威台灣問題專家、廈門大學台灣研究中心顧問兼學術委員會主任陳孔立教授認為不能排除陰謀的可能。他認為，事件在泛綠大本營、陳水扁故鄉發生，此事多少有點「蹊蹺」。阿扁一向善於「造勢」，在選情膠著、甚至民調落後的情況下孤注一擲使用「苦肉計」以爭取中間選民的同情亦有可能。

　4、究竟有沒有舉槍射擊的兇手？

　從整個下午的新聞報道中，無論官方或是群眾，都從未提到過有人目擊到兇手。兇手為甚麼能在眾目睽睽下舉槍射擊而不被看見？而且，陳水扁及呂秀蓮受傷的過程也很令人疑惑，他們怎會中槍後數分數才感到痛。資深傳媒人黃光芹就表示，事發後一時傳出陳水扁是被鞭炮炸傷，其後又說他是中槍，「然後又說他是在支持者的簇擁下，自己捂住腹部走進醫院」，資訊出奇混亂。

　5、槍手在甚麼地方向陳水扁開槍？

　有不願透露姓名人士表示，陳水扁所乘坐的車輛在金華路行進時，一直有攝影機拍攝，並無異狀，車前的擋風玻璃也未見有彈孔，其後駛至文賢路交界，不知如何出現「一陣慌亂」，之後才突然發現有了彈孔。究竟槍手從哪裏向他們開槍？

　6、陳水扁及呂秀蓮為甚麼都是輕傷？

　有人提出疑問，為何槍手正面向兩人射擊，而陳水扁與呂秀蓮卻是腹部橫向受傷及膝頭受傷？更奇怪的是，兩人的槍傷都是擦傷的輕傷，而彈頭也都湊巧地都在兩人的衣服內找到。這些傷會不會是做假？

　7、槍手為甚麼不射擊要害部位？

　陳水扁及呂秀蓮都站在車上，槍手為甚麼要瞄準他們的下身非要害部位射擊，而且這樣射擊要擊穿車頭的擋風玻璃，得手的難度很大。

　8、保安人員為何在事發4小時之後才進行現場搜證工作？

　台灣前「國安局」特勤人員李天鐸質疑，調查人員為何在事發後4個多小時才進行現場搜證工作。而且，現場也沒有封鎖，任由民眾跑來跑去，這將會失去很多有用、可以還原真相的東西。這種不符常理的做法，是否有人想隱瞞甚麼東西呢？

　9、為甚麼受傷的陳水扁要入住奇美醫院？

　按正常情況，發生「總統」遇刺這樣嚴重的事件，救護人員理應就近送入醫院救治，但奇怪的是陳水扁一點不急，不進就近的成大醫院，而要進綠營許文龍的奇美醫院，而且當時立即封鎖醫院，外界一無所知，此外，當局不允許檢察官入院檢驗，卻讓親扁的民視記者入院拍攝；出來說話的是「總統府」的邱義仁，而不是醫院的醫生。

　10、事情真相究竟能不能在選舉前公佈？

　在陳水扁被槍傷的事件發生後，藍營舉行了記者會，除了例行的對傷者問候外，還要求調查當局在當天公布事件真相，以減輕事件對藍營的影響。但調查權掌握在綠營手上，人們很懷疑調查能否在投票前公布。

(chinesenewsnet.com)

If we have to put on our critical thinking hat, I have to say that this whole gun shot incident smells like a fish, walks like a fish, and it's most likely a fish.

the previous posting is a very good one indeed, and a logical one. Unfortunately, critical thinking is just as rare as common sense, especially when u are dealing with mass. Chen is positioned to benefit tremendouly from the incident, so at least he's got the motive to do it. and if you follow the election, his motivation for winning this election is very, very high. Besides, as long as he win the election, he will make sure that the truth is never to be found. and if he loses, no body will care to find out probably. so one way or the other, Chen is safe. although I have no good opinion of him, I respect his cause (Taiwan's independence), I am impressed with his ruthlessness in his pursuit of ends, but I despise his character.

one more thing, as a neutral party (American), I really don't see how this rush to independence is benefiting Taiwan in any way other than giving some politicians issues to run on. Maybe it's more about pride and emotion, which probably cannot be understood by someone outside. Maybe that's what Ling1984 is hinting to?

just notice that the discussion here is so attractive.

First of all, i'd better decalre that i don't like politics

Second is that politics does exists in real life

Third is that people both in mainland China and Taiwan are descendants of the Yellow Emperor.

Forth, To me, Chen Shuibian is a madman.

It is probably 100% right to say that people come to our BAC are adults. Normally adults have their own viewpoints on each sudden incident or issue. So i don't think TROUBLE's viewpoints will affect others.